und dann überlegt ihr Korrupttanzschwänze&lustludlmösen alle auch, egal welchen Job-Talar ihr tragt, OB EUER „Wohlleben“ DAS weiter zu decken = kosten, hat.
Schatzln…
in ALLEN FORMEN von menschlichem Lebenskraftstrom-Mißbrauch, als „seckSU-all-ell“, AUSTROCKNEND.. seccare, essicare… was auch mordend bedeuten kann, ugs.
Und da darf der Schönborn sich aufführen, dem geliebten GROI Dankmessen schwuchteln.. Hurenvater – verhurungs… – Fritzl leider als Nettpuffkelleradreß nimma verfügbar sein, und und und:
OH WIEN! Was leben da für …. ?
Ja, was seid ihr denn?
Was mich betrifft, kann, wer seine Mitmenschen schänden läßt, einpacken. Komplett.
Das ist zu sagen, Domdame Brigitte
(was jede sein kann.. mit ihrem eigenen Namen, denn wir sind Das Gebet Leben.
und.. Domherren mit, sogar, und wir ehren sie, Domfürsten, ja.Take it from my heart, it’s true.)
WAS LISA HIER so unfaßbar kristallin aus sich herausstellt, hat in Österreich auf jedem Schreibtisch zu landen, der mit Verhältnismäßigkeit und Menschen ..als Mensch..arbeitet!
Damit da endlich einmal honiriert wird, WAS WESEN BEITRAGEN, um DIESE SCHEISSE AUS DER ERDE ZU GEGENWACHSEN!
IHR „Wiener“ tretet das reiche Erbe an, indem ihr es aufbraucht, während ihr darin als „internatinal“ly – orgiesfriendly charityhohn-Ratten herumhuscht.
Und uns anderen mißfällt das angeekelt!
Altrimenti: le tue palle sul ceppo e il collo tre ore dopo. E vonde.
Gediegener Lebensunterricht holt auch als Schnellsiederkurs zu Unterrichtende da ab, wo sie den notwendigen Inhalten zu folgen schaffen.
Hard as it is, and it’s very, very, very hard, I have to say this. I suggest anyone squeamish or very sensitive, or anyone newly waking up, not read further.
If a person has not personally experienced MK Ultra-type mind control and SRA, or put a ton of time into studying how they work, it’s much too easy to think in black and white and divide into perpetrators vs. victims. It doesn’t work that way. That is crucial to understand, because without this principle, none of the crimes committed by these cults would happen at all.
We are coming into a time when people will be calling for the blood of the perpetrators. Look, I’ll put it bluntly: if we are going to execute everyone who has killed anyone in a satanic ritual, we will be executing little children. These cults use torture to manipulate even toddlers to commit criminal acts, or to believe they are doing so. It would be a rare ten-year-old in one of these cults who has not killed with his or her own hands. Usually much younger. It is not the things done to people in these cults that cause the most lasting damage, it is what people are forced to do to others.
Okay. If people can get their minds around that, then they will argue that children are not responsible, but the adults they become are. Right? Not so fast. You have to really understand how thoroughly people’s minds are split. The alters that are trained from childhood to do terrible things are aware of what they are doing, but the front person who lives everyday life is not. It isn’t a matter of free will. If the mind control is done thoroughly, it’s like a computer doing what is programmed into it.
Does the soul have any free will? Can it override the mind control? Sometimes. Sometimes there is a choice between a lesser and a worse evil. But picture yourself – really, really picture yourself – kidnapped, drugged, taken to a ritual site, the signal given to bring out an alter trained from childhood to kill, and given a choice between stabbing someone to death quickly or watching someone else skinned alive slowly. You cannot get away. Other cult members begin actually skinning the other person alive, and you feel like the screams are tearing you to pieces.
Should you be executed for what you do next?
But maybe, you argue, you should have escaped before things got to this point. Okay… how? Do you realize how hard the cult works to program people so even the front alters that live everyday life can do only what the cult wants? Or how people are programmed from childhood to KNOW in every fibre of their being that if they try to get away, try to tell, ask for help, call the police, terrible things will happen? That there is nowhere to run, no place to hide? That you might be programmed to come down with life-threatening symptoms if you even try to make a plan to get away? That since childhood they’ve put you through test after test, torturing you or making other terrible things happen if you ever try to disobey? That the police and every other supposedly helping institution are infiltrated with cult members?
In adulthood, SOMETIMES, people are given the choice to retain total mind control (the front alters being unaware of the cult alters) or move to awareness. IF that choice is given, and the person chooses awareness, THEN we can say the person from that point on is fully responsible.
I tried to explain this once before and was told „they knew what they were doing and did it anyway, so it’s all right to torture them before executing them.“ No, they didn’t. Not most of them. Only the alters that were trained from childhood to kill, or whatever the crime is, were aware. Yes, in some extreme cases, like (I am assuming) Hillary Clinton, Podesta, etc., the whole person was given the choice and chose evil, and then we can say they were responsible. This is not most cases.
People really need to learn the difference between the concept of a person passing on abuse because they were abused, and a person obeying a cue under absolute mind control, often under threat of something worse happening if they do not. These are day and night. Chalk and cheese. Never the twain shall meet.
By incredible luck, and for reasons I am not yet clear on, I myself escaped becoming an adult in a satanic cult. Somehow my family got out before I reached puberty. If they hadn’t, regardless of the strength of my will or of my soul, I would very likely be one of those people for whose blood people will soon be calling. When I hear about these crimes, part of me rages for the victims and part of me is saying „there but for the grace of God go I.“ So it is hugely upsetting to keep hearing people unwilling to try to understand this.
In no way am I saying any of this is all right. In no way am I saying it should be allowed to go on. And yes, I do know EXACTLY what it feels like to be the victim of unfathomable crimes, so there is no way I am going to minimize them. What I am saying is education is paramount so we understand the difference between those who with free will chose to be monsters, and people who were never given the choice, whose minds and spirits are broken with grief and trauma and guilt, and who with every breath they take are wishing the nightmare they live in would end and they could heal. If the public sentiment does not understand this and is calling for their blood, they won’t come forward and ask for help, even when it becomes available. And they deserve that chance. Surely the same technology that will read our fields and ascertain our intent for the quantum financial system can also tell the difference between a person who with full awareness chooses evil and one who is caught in it because of mind control, and it needs to be safe for people to come forward and ask for help.
If we can’t understand this and communicate it to others as the normies wake up, think about what will happen: the tunnels might be cleared, but the generational satanic cults will continue unabated because not only are they harder to detect, but given that there is no division between perpetrators and victims, no one will be willing to come forward with what they know. Everyone in such cults feels like a perpetrator. This is a scenario that will cost lives.
I know what I am saying is not popular, but I am absolutely certain that communicating this message is a big part of why I am alive at this time, with the life experience and the courage to say it. I am sure at least some will hear me. And if I get kicked off this site for saying this, it will have been worth it. It matters that much. The next few days may be hell for me, but I am willing to go through that to get this message out there.
Thank you and God bless.
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Yes, but only if we have the courage to take that first step. I’ve waited so long for someone else to do it, and realized it has to begin with me.
Thank you for being willing to go there. It means a lot. It’s not easy to stick your neck out with an opinion on what is probably the most sensitive issue on the planet right now.
That seems to be what I signed up for this lifetime. I guess none of us took the easy way.
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But that’s missing the point, unless the solar event also wakes up the general public so they understand what the programming was in the first place. Otherwise we will have a witch hunt on our hands. That is what I am so concerned to prevent.
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It’s a chance, I couldn’t say without knowing the person’s whole history, which there is a detailed record of if they have been involved in the cult their whole lives. Their handlers would know which of their alters had how much awareness. I would guess that an internationally known monster like Hillary Clinton was fully aware and responsible, but that does not necessarily hold true as we go down the hierarchy. I’ve read some of those statements from RRN too, and wondered. They read like psychopaths with no redemption possible, but I just cannot be sure. This is where my proposal is that the same technology be used that we are told will read our field for the QFS, be used for this. The thing is, the White Hats began by clearing out the DUMBs and arresting the worst and highest-up in the cabal, and that’s an understandable strategy. Meanwhile the truthers have focused on getting the word out about the worst crimes and the adrenochrome. What I’m not seeing is any of the truthers speaking up explaining how the mind control works in generational cults, especially the fact that there is no delineation between victims and perpetrators. This could turn into a witch hunt if the general public becomes aware of one and not the other. When the horrors committed by the cabal become dinner-table conversation and a person who is caught in one of those cults does not dare say „I’m caught in one and need help“ because since earliest childhood they’ve been made to feel like a perpetrator, and now people areall gung ho to eradicate the cult but don’t understand the distinction. It’s going to be a nightmare unless we raise awareness.
Thank you very much. If you possibly can, tell more people. They need to know.
hank you, Lorie, for doing that. It’s quite a project. But you will know so much more, and be able to help others understand. I salute you for that.
Thank you, Allison, for your kind words, and for reading what I wrote. It actually wasn’t writing it that was so hard, it’s what I am going through now. I knew that would happen, and I will get through it.
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God does, but do the angry mobs who might be incited into a witch hunt once truth comes out? Or the judge who is going to say „convicted and sentenced to hang by the neck until dead“ but who has no understanding of how little choice the person in front of them really had? That’s what I can see if we don’t get the word out.
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I strongly disagree. And I’m not sure you actually took in any of what I said.
You draw the line where the person was given the chance to become fully aware, in all their alters, and having said yes to that, chose to do evil. You do not draw the line by prosecuting even adults who had no more choice than the children they once were. That is not justice. You offer the chance for those people to heal.
This is not a vicious cycle like the cycle of abuse that does not include mind control. These are not people choosing their actions.
If that is how it is going to be, as you say, I want off this planet along with those children. This is not a society I want anything to do with. If Q has made this huge omission, I am done with Q.
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Yes… how do you see that happening? Will the solar flash, if it’s a real thing, accomplish that? Do you think it is impossible, even with education, otherwise? Truly, if it is, I want nothing to do with this world. I want to get off it along with the children who chose Venus instead.
From the variety of responses, I think there is some of both.I get the sense you are very in touch with some past lives and have mastered a lot of lessons. True patience with all aspects of the human experience comes from that, and I recognize it in you.I don’t think I’m going into 5D anytime soon. 4D, maybe. I am still too riddled with anger and trauma and guilt. But, being a voice, living an example if I can, and making room for people like myself in the world we are building, are what I came here to do. I know that like I know the back of my hand.
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Thank you, Roberta. I’m sure there are ways to help survivors of all ages. I’m not convinced that memory wiping is the best way, though. It’s more of an energetic work that needs to happen. Most survivors will tell you that remembering the trauma is not the hardest part of healing, by a long shot. That is my experience too. The hardest part is the pain we live with, a pain incomprehensible to most. It’s agony, as if everyone you ever loved has just died, and you are being blamed for it, and every cell in your body is on fire. And it goes on day after day, year after year, while you are expected to carry on as normal. That is something like the pain a ritual abuse survivor lives with, and that is what needs healing.
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Yes, Cathy O’Brien did make that point, I remember it well. It actually wasn’t writing what I wrote that was so hard. It’s how badly I knew I’d be triggered by some of the reactions I expected, and I predicted that correctly. It’s been a mix, some understanding, some not. It’s just that those that don’t, trigger a whole lifetime of trying to make my way in a world that has no clue of my reality, and then knowing that millions more are in the same boat.
Thank you, Pam. And whatever it was you had to be brave for, thank you for doing that too.
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Because I listened to the World News from last night and this post stemmed from being triggered by what Janine said, which showed not understanding how this works, and I am emphatically disagreeing with something she said was a closed case, non-negotiable.
If I misunderstood, I’d appreciate if you would tell me. It’s kind of a huge deal for me.
Thanks Donna. And I did see your post on the other thread, but today am wiped out. I will get back to you on that tomorrow as well.
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If anyone has healing energy they can send me, I could use some. I am really going through hell right now. Not because of writing it, but because of being a lone voice in a very bleak wilderness.
I am going to say no to that, thank you but I do not want healing energy from you.
Thank you very much Donna.
Thank you very much, Pernille.
Many thanks, everyone. I could see an image of different parts of my brain sort of being sewn together, and then was able to sleep. Please don’t anyone deplete yourself for my sake though. We all have lots we are dealing with.
Thank you, and I am sorry for your experiences that no one wants to hear or believe.
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Wow… I’m kind of at a loss for words. You get it. I… well, thank you.
Yes, the thing is it can be hard to really know that as a survivor of a cult that tries their utmost to teach you that God hates you. But I try.
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Interesting, I need to think more about that. I purposely did not include movie stars because I thought it was more like they were given the choice as adults of their career ending, or selling their soul to Satan for it to continue. In that case, I’d say they are responsible. I did not realize that sometimes there is no choice. If you have any links, I’d like to have a look.
Glad you told me, because it went to my spam folder!
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Again… speechless. Thank you.
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Thank you so much Willow, for your understanding, kindness, and compassion. Yes, I can feel your support over the miles.
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Thank you, Brit.
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I’m truly not sure this is the best choice. I would like to hear from whoever is making that decision what their reasons are. But what do you see happening to the adults?
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Thank you Ella. 🙂
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I was thinking some more about the implications of a blanket policy to execute anyone who as an adult participated in heinous crimes under mind control. If that had been in place all along, either I would have grown up as an orphan, or would never have been born at all. And I think of myself as a five-year-old, around when the abuse was worst, and imagine being told my parents were going to be executed, I would have been devastated and also felt I was to blame. It would have ruined me. If only they had been given, instead, a chance at healing and rehabilitation, to stop what they were doing and become good parents. My life would have been so different. Of course, I would not be here today talking with all of you, but that’s because there would have been no need. Now think about millions of children today in the same situation. That’s what we are talking about if we say the adults were responsible even if they weren’t, and have to be removed from the earth plane for the good of society. No. Just no.
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Thank you so much Chris. I am touched by how courageously you are facing these issues that are so much easier to hide from. My hope is that one day soon there will truly be room for all of us on this earth, including all those who have been judged and marginalized. I know what my role is, just hope more people join in as time goes on.
Chris, I don’t know whether you’re still following this, but if so, I wanted to add something because you are doing the admirable work of reading these 500 pages. I’m sorry but if you said what you do for work at some point I’ve missed it, so don’t know how you intend to use this. I just wanted to add that while this book describes one kind of MK Ultra training in great detail, it isn’t the only kind that exists. There are other programs, such as reverse Kabbalah, that split and structure the mind using different strategies. I was actually surprised that in this book they describe love-bombing for 18 months followed by sudden traumatization. This is definitely not a universal. Most of these cults begin deliberate traumatization at or soon after birth. Anyway, if you are interested feel free to message me. I can point you towards other resources if you want them for comparison.
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I can’t find the post where someone commented that all this is new to people because I am breaking new ground with this information. That is almost true. I know only one other talking about it in any detail: Wendy Hoffman. It’s hell for her as well, undoubtedly worse than it is for me because she was unable to get away from the cult she grew up in. Well into her seventies they followed her wherever she went, kidnapping and reprogramming her and forcing her to do all kinds of things. Her most recent book is available as a free download. She remembers things in it that happened as late as 2017. https://survivorship.org/books-and-posters-for-sale-by-survivors/
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We’re not talking about people who are in a satanic cult for money or greed. We’re not talking about people who torture innocent people and laugh. That’s a different issue, and my point is to make sure people understand the difference. We’re talking about people who literally have never had a choice. Who do terrible things at gunpoint, drugged, with threats to their families. These are the vast majority of cases. These are people who were tortured mercilessly, too. What if it was your child? Yes, let’s look at that. What if you had been raped multiple times, had your babies stolen to be sacrificed, then were allowed to keep ONE child, whose life from that point on was held over you to make you do what the cult wanted? What if you were kidnapped, drugged, and taken somewhere where that precious child was tied to a chair with a gun to his head, and you were told to do whatever it was they wanted of you this time or they would kill your child? It takes money to fake your death. Lots of money. Where are you going to get it? How are you even going to THINK of it, under mind control, when your abusers think of every thing you could possibly think of doing to get away and program you not to be able to do it? You can go to someone for help? Who? And how are you going to trust anyone, when over and over you have been tortured into knowing that everywhere you could possibly turn for help, there is betrayal? Even Cathy O’Brien, for whose indomitable spirit I have the utmost respect, did not manage to save herself and her daughter from the cult, because she was so mind controlled that in her own words, she could not THINK to do so. They had to be rescued by a man with unparalleled skill. I know of no one else who has ever gone to the lengths he did. I could go on, and on, and on, and on, and on. If you have not lived it you can’t know. If this rigid vengefulness is the mentality in the world, even among people who are awake, I can absolutely see why the rescued children are choosing to live on Venus instead. If I were given that chance, I would take it in a heartbeat. This place is barbaric.
Actually, even some of the people who laugh were mind controlled to have alters who do that. Mind controlled through torture. I know this for a fact.
Thank you Caroline. I hope it wasn’t too hard for you to read that. We are blessed to have you too.
By the way, remember that dream I had about the house with mud walls and running water and how it was the new justice system? Wonder what that had to do with this? I’m not yet coming up with a connection but there probably is one.
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Someone asked earlier whether, when we read the confession statements of the worst criminals and they say they didn’t do it, it’s possible that because of mind control, they really believe that. I said „maybe.“ And I stress that I’m not saying what they did is all right, and there are some people too far gone to be rehabilitated, but we need to be able to differentiate between those and the majority who can be. That said, I found this passage in „The Enslaved Queen“ pertaining to that very question. This happened to Wendy Hoffman when she was four years old, in a programming session at Montauk Point. „To me, he [Mengele] said, ‚You are now being made a criminal. Do you agree?‘ ‚Shoot her with electricity.‘ ‚Nod when you agree.‘ ‚Keep shooting her, Mrs. Twartski.“ ‚That’s all for today. We want to make her agree, not kill her,‘ Mengele said. This went on for consecutive days until I started to die. They gave me no food or water and didn’t permit me to sleep. On the fifth day, some part of me nodded and I agreed.“ and later… „When I look at the faces of some of the assassins of political leaders, I think that they are programmed because of the wide-eyed stare that seems to go back into their own brains, and the hyper-dtermined look of a person acting on a program. When they say they don’t remember what they did, I believe them. The part who assassinated recedes, and the other parts of the person’s brain don’t know anything about the crime.“
David Icke has written about this general concept, in The Biggest Secret, when covering the assassinations of JFK and Diana.
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I agree with almost all of that, just have one thing to add for consideration.
In a programmed multiple there is no original person. All parts of the person are alters. People usually assume the front person that interacts with the world (there are often several of these with subtle differences) is the real person, but anyone whose mind is set up this way will tell you that it isn’t. It’s an alter too.
All that is left of the original person, which is called the core, is never split, and it is held by many layers of protection so deep in the system that most people never find it. It’s like the jewel in the centre of the lotus flower. It may have completely different qualities than the person previously thought they had. If a person can find it, the mind can integrate, but there are many, many complications along the way. Guaranteed, the kinds of criminals we’re discussing have not found it. So the relevant question would be whether all other parts of the person agreed to become conscious, and to choose evil. I’ve only read about this decision being given and there may be a lot more to it.
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Oh, absolutely. I am a case in point. It would take a book, but I know I am still trying to restore faith that was taken from me by torture in a past life, not to mention this one.
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Well, I’d be happy to be a test case. I’ve been asking the galactics to take me off this planet for healing for several months now, as there is nothing that works here and I’m at the end of my rope. Wish I knew if there is some official place one lodges such a request.
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I’m so sorry, bp, I really don’t understand what you are saying. You try so hard but this is way over my head. If anyone else understands the gist of this and can make a summary, I might be able to respond in a meaningful way. Otherwise I’d only be taking wild guesses and missing the mark with 90% of it.
Try to put every sentence into a wide space. It will be you.
Now I keep silent. Please don’t mind.. I cannot write for the head and the heart divided. A warm, strong hug! And wonderful lifetimes for you to be found, more than earned, truly!!
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I agree with you about Nuremberg, it seems to me it was mainly smoke and mirrors to appease the people’s rage, while the worst war criminals escaped. It can’t happen that way again. I wish we had a better term for what is going to happen than Nuremberg 2.0, but we are in a situation the world has never encountered before.
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Ella, thank you so much for that heartfelt and detailed response. You put so much of your heart into it and I would like to respond in kind. Trouble is I’ve switched to a different alter than the one that wrote this post, which makes it hard to find the right sentiment and the right words. It’s an occupational hazard, so to speak. I’d like to come back to it when able, Sending you tons of gratitude.
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If this is regarding the video above, I haven’t had a chance to watch it yet, so not sure if this is an adequate answer, but what I can say so far is… I don’t know how it works. Why do some people resist brainwashing more than others? That is the perennial question we’ve all been asking ourselves, and banging our heads against the wall over, for three years. The best answer I’ve come up with is a combination of a renegade mind as a character trait – you know, those kids who drove their parents and teachers crazy by constantly asking questions and refusing to follow rules – with maybe an old soul that has been around the block a few times. What do you think? MK Ultra programming is actually vastly different from programming by television and school. One difference is that the latter does not split the mind into compartments. I’m sure you could think of tons of other ways they differ. I’m not sure why I was less programmable than some, because the reason MK Ultra liked to use the children of multiple-generation mind-controlled or incest-based families is that each successive generation is more easily programmed than the last. I think, in addition to whatever it was my parents did to get away, which I may never know, I was too rebellious. It happens. Not sure how accurate this is, but I did have a memory of myself at two or three years old fighting a programming session by throwing the Tinker Toys that were supposed to teach me where in my system to store certain alters, across the room. Trish Fotheringham is one who fought the programming hard enough that the cult eventually discarded her when she was a teenager. I think she has done some videos that you could watch on youtube. It isn’t easy when the cult discards a person, much as it’s good that the active abuse is over. They do a kind of programming that shuts down a lot of the person’s alters before letting the person go out in the world. That has the effect of shutting down some of the memories and programmed reactions, but it also makes large portions of the sense of self unavailable. It’s like being a walking ghost. They did this to Wendy Hoffman too, to a lesser extent. She says if you can locate the shut-down parts it goes a long way towards healing. I feel strongly that this is my case as well, but much as I try, so far I have not succeeded at locating this in myself. I went off on a bit of a tangent. Hope something there was helpful.
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Thank you, Robin. Yes, this is what I am called to do. (I actually haven’t said much, if anything, about my experiences growing up. My focus is on what it’s like to be a survivor.) In that light, may I call awareness to a few more things? These are things I have often heard people say, so I know they are common. First, I know I speak for most survivors when I say that it’s not the memories or even the traumas that need to be removed. Those are the easy part, believe it or not. The hardest part, almost any of us will tell you, is the pain we live with. Physically in some cases, but I’m talking more about the emotional, spiritual, and psychic pain. I’ve likened it to realizing you are the only person left alive on the planet after a nuclear holocaust. Another analogy is about what it’s like to try to live a normal life as a survivor of something no one around you recognizes. Imagine you had a broken leg that had not been tended to, and gangrene was setting in. But all around you people were putting you down any time you expressed being in pain, and told you it was all in your head and you were purposely being difficult, and to get on with your life and stop complaining. That if you only tried harder you could walk like anyone else. Someone else mentioned technology that wipes the memories of the children from the tunnels. I’m not one of them, so can’t speak for them, but for survivors like myself I’m really dubious. Regaining memory is a crucial part of healing, and for most of us, the problem is not that we can’t forget, but that we can’t remember in the first place. The symptoms are there telling us something is very wrong, but we can’t remember why, so we blame ourselves for the symptoms and try to make them go away with techniques that just don’t work for us. This repeated failure eventually becomes part of the problem. I do notice that you spoke of wiping the memories and trauma from our bodies, rather than from our minds. That is getting closer. A lot of these disabling symptoms do affect the body. But we still need to understand where they come from. That way we can forgive ourselves and challenge the trickery in the mind control sessions that caused the symptoms in the first place. I’ve worked on myself for decades, using every technique I can find, with help and alone, including some cutting-edge therapies. Most don’t help. Some make it worse. So now I just hang on day by day hoping for a miracle. And honestly, it would feel like a miracle to me if even some people around me had a better understanding of my reality and the reality of so many others like me. So that’s one reason I expose myself so much to bring out the truth. Thanks for listening.
Thank you, Caroline, as always. Targeted gaslighting is horrible. I’m sorry you had to go through that at a young age. One place I do see this experience as making me stronger is how in the past three years every accusation has been thrown at me personally as well as a part of the collective, for contradicting the narrative, and it hasn’t really fazed me. Not that it’s easy, but it’s so easy to recognize it for what it is that most of the time it just makes me more determined to hold my ground. Has that been your experience as well?
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I had a revelation recently. The phrase „where we go one, we go all“ means that the most wounded of us are coming along too. Whatever ails humanity, all of humanity needs to open its eyes to, make room for, heal, transmute. But healing perfectly is not a prerequisite for coming along on this journey we are all on. We are on this journey together warts and all.
While it’s kind of bp to say I have „flawless word tissue“ I struggle to find the right words to convey this. Umm… There is still a lot of rigidity in some – not all – on the path to ascension. A smugness that maybe can be expressed best as humour, as JP Sears has done for us so well. This might be a good example of what I mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_4MCZJNPJ0
If what we believe to be true, and the methods we believe are universally beneficial, don’t fit a large portion of humanity, is there something wrong with those beliefs and methods, or with that portion of humanity?
Would we point accusatory fingers at, say, blind people or autistic people, for having a reality and needs that are not like those of the rest of us? We have enough awareness now that the mere question is laughable. (I hope. I’m not them, but am willing to be corrected on that.)
In my somewhat biased opinion, opening minds to understanding and accepting the different reality and needs of ritual abuse survivors is the last taboo in society. (Again, if anyone has personal experience of something that is an even stronger taboo, I’m interested to know. I want you to have room, too.)
A whole lot of what is generally assumed to be universal human reality just is not our reality. A whole lot of the spiritual practices people follow on the path to ascension don’t fit for us. Things that make others healthier in mind, body, and soul might or might not fit. When we listen to truthers, in large part it’s like watching a movie from a distance: they are speaking to awakened humanity, but not to this part of it. They don’t speak to us. And that’s okay, because most of them can’t speak from personal experience. It just needs to be acknowledged.
We live in a completely different reality. Not just a little different, but as different as anyone can possibly imagine. We try to fit in as best we can with the culture around us, but it’s like interacting with an alien civilization.
All I’m saying is, we’re coming too, and it may require some readjusting of assumptions. Where we go one, we go all.
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Pam’s affirmation adds a piece to the puzzle I’ve been putting together. Much appreciated. This may be an interesting story. It’s mine, but it’s about humanity too. Parts of it involve people who may not want their stories told yet, so I’ll adjust slightly. Eleven hundred years ago I lived on an island called Jura, off the west coast of Scotland. This was right after Christianity came to that part of the world, along with the written word. Satanism came right along with Christianity. The matriarchal society was crumbling. It was a time of darkness. Joining with others, we traveled far and wide doing ceremonies at key points on the earth’s grid attempting to protect it from the negative energy. There were crystals involved, and roses. Unfortunately as soon as we achieved some success, the dark side could feel it and would come to those same places and undo what we had done. It was a game of spiritual whack-a-mole. After some time of this, a meeting was called to regroup and strategize. This happened in France. At this meeting, two different directions came up. For some reason my mind is going blank as to what the first option was, either to continue the game of whack-a-mole or to give up. The majority chose this. I was one of twelve who took a second, more long-range option. We chose to plunge right into the darkness and over the course of many lifetimes, transform satanism in our own bodies, eventually making that healing available to the collective. Returning to Jura, I met the end of that lifetime by being killed by a demon that lived in the hillside, where there was a portal to hell. There was a curse that went along with that death, but I had chosen to allow this. The curse is the illusion of complete, irreversible separation from source. It is, as far as I am aware, the most intense pain a human being can possibly experience. So then, I did indeed spend lifetime after lifetime experiencing satanism from all angles, including a lifetime in which I was a Catholic priest during the plague in Ireland in the 1300s and, to put it mildly, not a nice person. One person in particular who I harmed in that lifetime was one of my abusers in this one. This is the last lifetime of this journey, and I do believe that even in this lifetime I have gone as deep into suffering as it is possible to go and still survive. I have done a ton of shamanic work, some helpful, some not. I am a long way from being „normal“ but with every step I take to heal, my intention is to share that with others. What exists to date to help survivors of ritual abuse and mind control is in its infancy. The books I have read and the accounts of other survivors for the most part leave me disappointed, because what they are calling healing falls far short of what I know to be human potential. My intent is to heal fully and thrive, and infuse that information into the grid to make it available to all survivors. Wish I knew what happened to the other 11. Maybe we will have a reunion one day. Anyway, what Pam said, without knowing any of that, feels like affirmation that I am on the right track to accomplish that.
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You’ve been very busy! It may take me a while, but I’ll have look and tell you what I think.
You know how you said you can only communicate with heart and head together? I’m the opposite, and need to take one thing at a time. Could you explain more what you mean by this:How do people themselves, „the practisioners“, change during and after the rites?Which people do you mean? I want to be sure I understand the question before attempting an answer.There is no doubt in my mind that people are serious about this in Europe too. Where one polarity exists, the other will also. The worst of it began there, so it’s natural that people would care about fighting it.There was a neo-Nazi branch to the cult I grew up in. Often there are multiple layers in a person’s programming, say Luciferian on top of MK Ultra on top of the KKK on top of the mafia. I have vague memories of some of the mind control involving being made to watch long, dull black-and-white films, likely while drugged, of someone lecturing in German. The phrase „sie gestehen“ popped into my mind and I had to look it up to know what it meant.
UND DA TRAMHAPERT MAN ALS „edles Wien“ SO DAHIN WIE SIE?
Psychiaterinnen, die einfach legalisierte Drogen reinspritzen, zum Niederhalten UND U ND UND UND UND UND — ja bitte, seid IHR Menschen? Nicht einmal das! Geschweige denn Arbeitende, oder gar das Ehrenvolle: Dienstleistende am Landeswesen. ARSCHPHOTOKOPIEN,
deambulierende!
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I am not aware of the soul having been driven out in any of the scenarios I’ve described. There is some controversy among experts in the field as to whether there are demonic attachments or simply alters trained to believe they are demons. I can point you to work that argues the point from both sides. That aside, in my own personal experience as well as the stories of many others, the soul itself does not go anywhere except in moments of extreme trauma, but it comes back again. What does evil things is an alter split off purposely through torture. It’s crucial to understand that in most children so tortured, many alters will be split off that refuse to cave before finally one is created who does. This is universal. Even the purest person would not be able to continue refusing forever. Then these alters are isolated from the rest of the system and trained to believe that they are evil. They have no knowledge of how hard the person fought, so it is easy for them to believe they truly are evil. They are put away again after whatever the person is being forced to do is done, and not brought out again until they are wanted again. The rest of the system has no awareness of them unless full consciousness is gained later on. There may be a misconception about what multiplicity is. It doesn’t involve removing the original person and inserting alters. The alters (and, to many people’s surprise, the front person who lives everyday life is an alter too) are not insertions into an empty space left by removing the person. The alters ARE the original person, split into many pieces. So, what we are protecting are real human beings with souls. You bet. The soul is good. These are people who, until given the chance to heal, have alters who do evil things, but at the core, these alters are tortured children. Please remember that you are asking this question of a survivor who, given other circumstances, would probably have become one of these people you are saying don’t have souls. I absolutely have a soul. So do most of us. We’ve been told about the most extreme cases among the elite, whose bloodline has a high proportion of reptilian genes and are susceptible to possession by reptilian energies. In those cases perhaps the soul is lost, and the person irredeemable, and many have assumed that this holds true across the board. What I’m doing is refuting that assumption. I can’t tell you percentages, but it’s a small percentage of the total of people involved in satanic cults. Most people in these cults, if given the chance, would choose healing. I’m saying don’t paint everyone with the same brush. Hope that makes things clearer.
Absolutely. I had an NDE myself at four and a half, when trauma took me close to death. When my guides told me I had to go back, I really didn’t want to. The compromise was that I got to leave a piece of my soul behind in a beautiful, loving place. But the rest of it came back and faced what came next, and eventually even that piece returned, because I don’t have access to that place anymore. I still miss it.
Thank you, I’m telling them to read that and take it to heart. For some reason I have an image in my mind of Tevye from Fiddler on the Roof looking up to Heaven and arguing with God. „Would it spoil some vast eternal plan, if I were a wealthy man??“
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There is something I could add that might shed some light on this for people who are struggling with this concept. Most of the survivor testimonies people have watched or read are from the point of view of people talking about what was done to them and to others in their presence. These naturally arouse righteous rage and desire for revenge. But they are incomplete. When Arizona Wilder was interviewed by David Icke in „Revelations of a Mother Goddess“ after which she disappeared and wasn’t heard from again, she made this statement, which stuck with me, even before my memories began to come back. She said „anyone who tells you they have been a victim of satanic ritual abuse but not a perpetrator is either lying or doesn’t yet remember.“ Forced perpetration beginning in toddlerhood is how these cults snare their victims. Without it they would not exist. So, if we can feel sympathy for the people who have given these testimonies, we have to extend that sympathy to the whole person. Not the acts they carried out under mind control, but the trap they were caught in. One does not exist without the other. They may not remember, or they may realize that their audiences are not ready to hear it. What I’m saying is we’ve come to that time in history when this puzzle piece must be added. Don’t press people for this information, we can’t know what stage they are at in their healing process and what that would do. Wait for them to be ready. But create the societal environment in which, when they are ready, it’s possible for them to share without people turning against them.
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I should add a caveat. There is so much fear of causing harm with anything I say. Trafficked children who did not grow up in a satanic cult themselves are exceptions to the rule. They are purely victims who are not forced to perpetrate. And I don’t know one way or the other about the children rescued from the tunnels. My focus is on people growing up in generational satanic cults, because this is the area I know most about and the area where I see a yawning gap in understanding.
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(Nicht Lisa)
I remember watching an interview of a young girl who had been rescued from a cult with her wee brother. I remember how she described her daily routines at the school run by her satanic father,and that in the afternoon they did „sex,“and then how she and others like her would be made to kill babies,helped at first by daddy as she did not have the strength required to cut the babies head off…all matter of factly described….my heart broke for her victims and for her. What a monstrous crime to turn beautiful,innocent children into obeying zombies…yes,we have to be very careful when it comes to dealing justly with all this…
(Lisa) So horrible for that girl who was not only exposed to that at night but school was no way to escape. Where would she ever find any positive influences to show her the other side of life? Yes, things like that happen all the time. The particular scenario you describe is not one I have encountered, but they do hold the child’s hands to force them to participate in sacrifices when they are very small. Sometimes they will then use trick photography to remind the child of what they have done, but remove the reminder of someone forcing them to do it, so they think they did it of their own volition. Imagine the horror, and the loneliness, such a child experiences. And then they make very sure to throw in scenarios where they are abused by police officers and therapists, or people posing as these things, so they know there is no one they can tell.
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(not Lisa) Please excuse me, Lisa: do you immediately recognize a satanist?
Could you tell us? _________ WITHOUT stupid actions from our part, of cause. We do not dare to apply. But sometimes.. I find myself looking at a political face… and the doubt hits uglily.
(Lisa)
There is something I recognize in a large number of politicians. It’s a combination of things and maybe I don’t know what they all are. They add up to someone with no morals, no strength of character, someone who would do anything for whatever reward they are greedy for, someone who has never done an honest day’s work, someone willing to exploit others for whatever gain. But a satanist in general? I’m not sure. I recognize the energy of a pedophile. It’s creepy-crawly, makes my muscles feel like they are wriggling inside my body. Even the subject, with no face to look at, makes me feel this way. When I read the book „Morning, Come Quickly“ which is about a psychologist working with SRA survivors who were used in child porn, who eventually realizes she was used the same way, immediately while reading that first page I got that feeling, even before my own memories surfaced. It lasted through the whole book.
I also recognize the energy of a sexual predator who is possessed by Satan or a demon. It’s dark like soot.
I would not be surprised if you can see it in political figures. There is something there for sure. I’ve had to step back from all the activism that involves contacting politicians petitioning them for this or that. My reaction to their energy is too strong. It makes me feel contaminated.
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For anyone wanting to further understand the complexities of the mind control, I recommend this book: https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Unimaginable-Treating-Ritual-Control/dp/1855758822It contains the best explanation I’ve seen anywhere about forced perpetration and how to heal the damage that does. There are some things I disagree with the author on, but for this and the detailed descriptions of programming strategies, given by both survivors and former programmers, it’s unparalleled. It’s intended for therapists. For survivors, the author wrote a different book called „Becoming Yourself.“ There are two reasons. One is the possibility of the material being triggering. The other is not wanting to contaminate the process of memory recovery in people just beginning, who want to make sure that their memories are really their own. I found ways to work around both these things, and have found it invaluable.
Healing the Unimaginable: Treating Ritual Abuse and Mind Control
Amazon.com: Healing the Unimaginable: Treating Ritual Abuse and Mind Control: 9781855758827: Miller, Alison: Books
Great, I hope it is helpful. The price certainly has gone up since I bought it six years ago. Fortunately there is a Kindle version that is a lot cheaper.
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UND HIER ERLEBT IHR GESCHISSENEN KADAVERHERZEN ALLE,
was ihr „als Autoritäten“ GELÖHNTE!!!!!
Psychiater, Richter. Anwälte, Mitmenschen, die das klar kapieren, Eltern!!, Lehrer, Priester!!!!! Ordenfrauen, Portiere und Putpersonal NACH solchen Dinge, ihr Pornomohnzuzln in eurem Hirnscheißehaufenkorb und und….. ihr Akademiker und Politiker in allen Sparten, also ihr mit RAUMWAHRUNg an unterschiedlichsten Stellen beauftragten DEM WIR DIENSTLEISTEN DÜRFENDE……
alles nicht tut, nicht kneißt, und was ihr für mottenzerfressene Kaftanseelen seid! Lumpen… egal welcher Art.
E R B Ä R M L I C H !!
Und das mit Ballfrack überschneidern.. lachhaft!
Brigitte Scotti-Planyavsky
Ach ja!
Ehre, wem Ehre gebührt:treuen Menschen, treuen Frauen, treuen Kindern, treuen Großeltern und Urgroßeltern und treuen Männern und treuen Freunden. Und treuen Toten, in deren Wesens-, Herz- Seel- und Leibwerken wir mitwohnen dürfen, auch.
